EHL 2017/2018 Surbiton withdraw from EHL.

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  1. ironman

    ironman FHF Top Player

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    I've merged 2 threads here (well, 1 part-thread and 1 thread). The order's a bit off but everything's together in one place. Redumpire
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    Interesting that Wimbledon have kept their place in Round 1 rather than being promoted to Surbiton's spot and Holcombe taking the lower ranked place.
     
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  2. sord89

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    Agreed. Seems harsh on Wimbledon especially as they finished higher in the league AND got further in the play offs
     
  3. ironman

    ironman FHF Top Player

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    The press release from EH (http://www.englandhockey.co.uk/news...iton+not+to+take+up+EHL+KO16+place&section=22) seems to imply that Wimbledon were involved with the decision. I guess maybe they would be in a similar position with losing players in the next round and thought it would be a good experience to play in the round robin format of Round 1.

    Personally I think given the strength of Surbiton's youth section it's a shame they're in this position but so be it.
     
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  4. ArbyJames

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    Wimbledon were offered the place and decided against it. As @ironman mentions above, there was a collaborative approach to the decision, not just EH deciding to put Holcombe in above Wimbledon.
     
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  5. redumpire

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    Wow.

    "England Hockey League winners Surbiton have decided not to take up their place in the Euro Hockey League KO16 in 2018 that is awarded to the league winners.

    The club have made this decision as the EHL clashes with teams’ acclimatisation and final preparation for the Commonwealth Games in the Gold Coast, Australia. The EHL KO16 runs from March 30 to April 2 whilst the Commonwealth Games starts on Thursday 5 April."

    More here...
     
  6. Willowsacorns

    Willowsacorns FHF Legend

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    Very disappointing but understandable. I fear Holcombe without Pinner, Middleton and Ames will not fare well nor will Wimbledon without all their internationals.

    CG is an irrelevance in the modern world (although perhaps this time it will provide an opportunity for trade deals to be agreed??)
     
  7. Krebsy

    Krebsy FHF All Time Great

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    Try telling that to the players.
     
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  8. Accidental

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    As someone with tickets to the men's bronze and gold medal matches, I'm very pleased that the players are prioritising the Commonwealths.
     
  9. Gingerbread

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    Officially we can't negotiate trade deals while still in the EU :p
     
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  10. jonberg

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    Wow.

    It's a joke to our sport. It's like having Chelsea not competing in the Champions League because there's the African Nations Cup in January. The more time passes, the more it is becoming a struggle between club and country. Why are players having to choose between club or country? In this case, the club decided for them but I think it's a big blow to the image of the EHL.
     
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    If you're competitive at world level, then it is a bit of a sideshow. Nice to win but you're not going to base your whole season on it. If you're in the second or third tier, then it's definitely more important.
     
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  13. Krebsy

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    That's obviously not how surbiton and their players see it?
     
  14. SPactionimages

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    Would you prefer to win the World Cup or Commonwealth Games??

    Surbiton's centrally contracted players won't get a choice, and of course it's huge for Scotland and Wales.
     
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  15. Krebsy

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    Overlooking the rather patronising final comment...
    India and Australia seemed quite keen in the last commonwealth games.

    We seem to be basing this argument on the fact that some people on the forum don't value the tournament. That's really not relevant.
    International sport is the pinnacle of almost every mainstream sport and tournaments like this which draw large numbers of different countries together are a massive asset and if the best players were prohibited from playing by their clubs then there would be a post on here moaning about how clubs were neutering top international competitions.

    English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish rugby clubs routinely do not have their top players available more for league duty and it works.
    Most centrally contracted cricket players play but a small handful of county games in England.

    The one sport I can think of in the uk where clubs often dictate the availability of players is not necessarily th role-model that hockey needs or wants.
     
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  16. Willowsacorns

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    Is it really bad news that Surbiton felt they had no option but to pull out - Yes (do you disagree?)

    CG is a lower tier international event in hockey terms to OG, WC, Euros, Champ Trophy - yes to the first 3 probably to 4 (do you disagree?)

    CG has more importance to lower ranked nations than others that regularly compete in tier 1 tournaments - (do you disagree?)

    Anyway....

    It's a crying shame that surbiton felt they had no option but to withdraw and with it Englands chance of getting to 3 teams in the EHL takes a hit (assuming Wimbo and Holcs suffer as well in the latter rounds)
     
  17. SPactionimages

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    CG in September would have been the best solution by far, not just for hockey. Anybody know why they went for April?
     

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