Seve Van Ass - ROT vs AMS

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  1. FastForward24

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    Anyone know what happened to Seve Van Ass this weekend in the Rotterdam vs Amsterdam game. It looks as though he's had the majority of his teeth accidentally knocked out by Valentin Verga, but wondered if anyone had any further info on this? Didn't look good at all!
     
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    Found a roughly translated article on the incident - Ouch!!

    Ass father says his son has undergone an operation and that are put back again. Teeth four of the seven The bottom of his mouth did not come from the battle undamaged. The jaw is put and the coming weeks, he can not eat normally. "Everything goes to oversee conditions are good and he is now again on the way back to the field," said senior of Ass.
    Paul van Ass said that his wife, who is a doctor, her son eventually escorted to the Erasmus Hospital. He himself is 4-1 to keep looking and then he also went to the hospital.
    Seve van Ass itself is just the word. "It was scared and I have swollen lips," he says. On the field he realized what happened, when he saw a tooth fly. In his fall The awareness about the seriousness of the case came when he saw himself reflected in mirror. "Then it is a shock that you lost almost all your front teeth. I saw a black hole instead of teeth, lots of blood and swollen lips. "
    The next three weeks should not chew of Ass jr. Optimistic he says: "I have been so busy with a juice that will be okay.
     
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    For those not able to watch the video (I think it is blocked outside the Netherlands):
    About 15-20 minutes into the game there was a run by Valentin Verga across his right side of the pitch. He was challenged, rather physically, by 2 Rotterdam players. When he was free he reacted to the challenge by swinging his stick wildly behind him. With this swing he hit Seve van Ass in the mouth, who lost 7 of his teeth, has a broken jaw and a dislocated lower jaw.
    Verga got red-carded for his action and the severity of his further punishment is still to be determined.

    As "translated" above: Doctors were able to put back 4 of his teeth and he may not chew anything for the coming 3-4 weeks.
     
  5. Notty11

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    wow...seen the video and glad to hear he quite rightly got a red card...would imagine a ban/fine is in order too!

    let himself down there big time....
     
  6. FastForward24

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    I take it back, that was definitely no accident!!! Not sure Verga would have wanted to injure another player so badly and especially a dutch team mate, but it was a stupid reaction to the tackle!

    Has to be a lengthy ban, even though I'm sure he's racked with guilt about it!
     
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    Wow that vid is insane, you can actually see 3-4 teeth flying out in the slomotion and yes it did not seem like a accident.
     
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    Hi,

    The player generally says it was an accident.
    Of course that is something to discuss in my opinion, I think at this hockey level you know you take the risk and within you take the responsibility to hit anybody.

    The opinion of the arbiters: It was absolutely not an accident, he did it on purpose.
    Thats why he showed him the red card.
     
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    that is disgusting. Verga should not be allowed to play for a few months at the very least.
     
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    Thanks, Egbert1997vl. My very, very shaky Dutch - picked up at hockey events over the years - just about understood what they were saying but good to have it confirmed.
     
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    Yikes. That is rather scary to watch. He certainly deserves a long break from all forms of the game in my opinion.
     
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    Right now his team suspended him untill the winter (three games). The whole swing seems unnatural at first sight. Intimidation might have been the intention, a little tap saying, you push me, I am here.

    Van Ass will look a bit like Jack Lambert now
     
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    Only a 3 match ban for that?
     
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    No, he has been banned by his team already. The KNHB has not yet looked into it.
     
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    The 3 match ban is imposed by the club in wait of the official ruling by the KNHB.

    The swing was reckless and most certainly something that does not belong on a hockey pitch, but I am very sure he never intended to hit anyone, let alone in the way that it happened now. So not to talk it right, but just a little thought: Because Seve lost several teeth everybody is now in shock and screaming for a very long ban. But what if Valentin hit a stick or a shin or perhaps even a stomach or chest. It would still be a red and a long ban, but would we be screaming just as loud? And would we want the ban to be just as long? And what if everybody got out of the way in time and he didn't hit anyone at all?
     
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    I was thinking a bit about that. I suspect he didn't intend to hit the chap in the mouth and cause the injury he did. But he did intend to swing his stick in a wild/dangerous manner and at best was reckless as to the consequences of who he hit.

    I think to some extent the consequences are relevant. It is clearly more dangerous to swing your stick around the heads of opponents than around the legs. He swung wildly and connected with the head and should face, in my view, a harsher consequence than if he had missed or hit the legs - because the result of the action was worse.

    Away from the sportsfield - if I drive my car at 90 mph in a 40 limit - and someone manages to jump out of the way as they are crossing the road I might get a speeding ticket and a ban. If I hit them and kill them I would likely go to prison for dangerous driving. Same initial action just different results.
     
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    if he hit a pad or something..a red and a 3 game ban. but BECAUSE he did actually cause serious bodily harm...people are well within their rights to harangue him tirelessly and he ought to cool his heels for a long while. i don't care that he could potentially have only hit a shin or something with a swing hard enough to break teeth, i care that he actually broke a guy's face.

    personally, i would want a guy who swings his stick in a threatening way to be off the pitch whatever the case. there's no need for it.
     
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    I understand that and I also understand that he may not of hit his face intentionally. However, as a player on the pitch every time you step on you are trusting people to not behave that way. Even more so when they are supposed to be a role model for hockey at the top of the sport. He should be banned for a lot longer from his club as well.
     

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