Ritual Response 2 vs Ritual Velocity 2

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  1. tommcgrath7

    tommcgrath7 FHF Starter

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    I've a 30% sponsorship with Ritual. I'm a forward pace is my best attribute and dribbling. I'm small and light not the strongest. I like a light stick. Really liked the mercian 005. One of the main things that confuses me on which to pick is all the info and features they give and what different bows and balance points mean. http://ritualhockey.com/collections/series-two/products/response-2 and http://ritualhockey.com/collections/series-two/products/velocity-2 or is there another stick I could/should be looking at ?
     
  2. Palm87

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    Well Tom, it's actually not all that hard to understand. But i'll break it down for you.
    - Bow Types: Describes where on the stick the bow starts to form. All measurements are measured from the head of the stick upwards.
    High bow (300mm) A bow that is furthest up the stick. Allows for easy control during slaps/flicks/hits
    Mid bow (250mm) The end of the bow will be more at an angle, which allows for better 3D-skills because you can lift the ball easier. Throwing aerials will be a bit easier as well, but you will have to adjust your technique for hitting as the ball comes of the ground a lot easier.
    Low bow (200mm) Because the bow starts to form at the end of the stick, it means that the head of the stick is a serious angle. Which makes lifting the ball over sticks even easier, and can really help with dribbling and 3D-skills. If you're not used to a low bow, then keeping the ball on the ground during a hit will be a bit difficult a first.

    - Balance point: Like the terms says, it's where the center of your stick is weight-wise. Again this is measured from the head of the stick upwards. Meaning that a higher number means that the stick gets lighter towards the head of the stick and that most of the weight is in the handle. Which is what you would want if you dribble a lot. (personal preference aside)

    - Bow Size: how big the gap is between the stick and the floor, when you place the stick on the floor with the backside facing up. This indicates the curve in the bow. Maximum legal height is 25mm, but most sticks tend to stick to 24mm. Lower number means less curve in your stick.

    Those are the things you might want to look at, when picking a stick. But both sticks are fine, and there really isn't a clear connection between your position in the field and what kind of stick you use. It is all about personal preference.
    If you don't have the option of testing the sticks out, you might want to get a stick which resembles your old one, if you were happy with that one that is.
    Personally I'd choose the velocity, because it will help you with dribbling and its a little bit lighter
     
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    tommcgrath7 FHF Starter

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    Thanks you explained it perfectly!! Nowadays they add in all this information and technology. Is there a way to tell what the bend on your last hockey is without looking it up because my mercian is different to the one thats advertised on their website. According to them mine is a late bend with the maximum permitted bend and its 200mm from the bottom of the head and as you said it generally raises your shots but mine don't seem to get raises all that often!
     
  4. Palm87

    Palm87 FHF Legend

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    Well, if you're used to it then it won't happen. But if you go from a high bow to a low bow, then you'll definitely have to work on you technique in order to keep the ball low.

    But if you're correct and you old stick was a lowbow, why not go for the specialist, which is also a lowbow?
    http://ritualhockey.com/collections/series-two/products/specialist-2
     
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    tommcgrath7 FHF Starter

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    I'm not a drag flicker! But do you think it would still be useful to use ? What advantages would the Velocity have over the Specialist if any ?

    Ps -Are all the sticks on rituals website from their new line ?
    Pps-I also have a discount for a retailer which has some of the old adidas hockey sticks from 2014 but I don't know what the differences between a x17 and lx24 and v24 and so on are I've been trying to search it for the last hour but haven't found much would you mind telling me which is a low bow and which is standard if you know!
     
  6. Palm87

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    They brand the stick as a drag flick stick, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you need to drag flick with it. Lowbows are often used for dragflicks, because the late bend allows for more reach, and therefore more power.

    I recommended the specialist because you said that your current stick is a 200mm late bend, and so is the specialist.
    The velocity (250mm) doesn't have any advantages over the specialist, except for the fact that I like the red color better than the yellow one. But as I said, sticks are all about personal preference, and I don't mean aesthetics.

    You say old adidas, but so far it's still the current generation of sticks for Adidas. The new selection will come out in 2 or 3 months.
    But LX24 is a midbow (250mm, 24mm), you can check my review of it under the 'Reviews' tab.
    V24 is a highbow (300mm, 24mm)
    And I think the X17 is a higbow as well (300mm, 22mm/ I might be wrong about this one though) Check www.adidashockeymag.com for that.

    But if Ritual is sponsoring you, then I think you should stick with them.
     
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    Patrick121916 FHF All Time Great

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    I'm a bit confused how you got a sponsorship without knowing what a low bow is.
     
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    haha I knew it was for drag flicking but that was it I'm a younger player U.14
     
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    Okay thanks!
    They've offered me 30% so I'm not sure if I should take it yet!
     
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    The amount of knowledge you have about sticks is nothing to do with how good you are at hockey
     
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    Totally correct! I've been playing hockey for about 20 years now, and until 6 years ago I didn't know anything about hockey sticks. On a technical level that is. Kept trying out sticks until I found one that I liked.
    Wasn't until I had to pay for them myself that, I thought I should figure out why some sticks are way more expensive than others.
    Made picking out a stick a lot easier and faster :D
     
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    Totally agree with that! My knowledge about sticks is pretty good but then I play seriously bad!
     
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    Well maybe I have a problem...
    I guess he couldn't have that much knowledge if he is asking about an Adidas stick when he is sponsored by Ritual.
     
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    Well he's been offered a sponsorship, so I'm guessing he hasn't accepted it yet.
    And I believe Craig Boyne corrected you on something similar not too long ago ;)

    But anyway, i'd stick with ritual and use the discount at the retailer for something else. Perhaps some new shoes or something.
     
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    FHE sold Adidas so I thought it applied to Adidas as well but it didn't.
     
  16. How did you get a sponsorship, I'm really curios?
     
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    You have to play at a level high enough for the brand to consider you a good investment to represent their products. Coaching and social media presence also help
     
  18. I k
    I know but I'm curious on how this person got their sponsorship
     
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    This isn't a dig at Patrick I hope? Like most people, I'll guess that it would have just been his sponsorship application leading to an offer from the brand (FHE).
     
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    This person must be me?
    I did get a sponsorship. I filled out the sponsorship form on FHE's website.
     

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