Olympics: Field Goals v PC Goals

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  1. Feral

    Feral FHF Regular Player

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    It now stands at 4 different PC specilasts Taeke Taekema, Jang Jon Hyun, Hayden Shaw and Luke Doerner.

    I wonder how many goals will come from field play as compared to PC's? :nerd:

    Any one like to guess at the percentages? ;)
     
  2. nerd_is_the_word

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    well most tournaments recently dragflickers have been top scorers for their teams. Last one i can remember number for was taekema at the world cup top scored with 11 of his teams 21 goals.

    Between 35 - 55 % depending on the team would be my ideas
     
  3. Craggsy

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    I still think it will be relatively close.

    FG - 45%
    PC - 55%
     
  4. Grumpy

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    PC 60%
    FG 40%
     
  5. keely

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    If anyone has actual statistics to back up his numbers here, it'll be Grumpy (or Mo79, or RushMan via his other half) so I'm going with him. Plus it accords to my experience as well.
     
  6. contramowly

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    men: 80-20 (80 PC)

    women (60-40)
     
  7. keely

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    Results from the first day of women's competition:

    PC 12
    FG 19

    Two of the six games completely didn't follow the pattern: China's 3 FGs against Spain in a game they completely dominated, and AUS's comeback victory over KOR where only one of the 9 goals was a PC. Take out even just this game and you've got 11:11 - so I expect that over the course of the tournament we'll see the numbers even out to close to 50/50.
     
  8. Wassie

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    Just shows how important practicing PCs is. How much time does everyone dedicate to PCs at practice compared to other goalscoring drills?
     
  9. Grumpy

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    1-2 hours sc attack and def
    1.5 hours attack and defence

    Each session

    You may only get one chance in a match from a s/c so you have to take it.
    Percentages are the name of the game, circle conversions to shots on target to goals.
    Or s/c gained and goals scored/ missed

    normally higher percentage of goals from s/c's but this does depend on you flicker/ shot strikers ability
     
  10. Wassie

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    Grumpy, you have a totally different session for PCs when just the corner battery is present?
     
  11. Grumpy

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    No, we have long sessions, but split for res periods
    Every ploayer takes part in attack and defence so they know exactly what every ones job is and can do it.

    Hard work and seeing a prima donna forward taking flicks off the line brings a smile to my face.

    It happens occassionaly :yes:
     
  12. keely

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    From the first day of men's games, the statistics are as follows:

    PC 11
    FG 20

    The AUS v CAN game really threw out the stats on this one, being all 7 goals as FG. Then again, AUS are traditionally poor PC finishers so maybe that's indicative of what we'll see from them in the rest of the tournament. Again, I expect that things will even out as the days go on, especially when more of the matches are close.
     
  13. contramowly

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    great post, Keely Dunn
     
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    Graçias, señor. :p
     
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    you all seem to be putting a lot of weight on PC goals here. Everyone has gone for at least 50% of goals to be scored by PC. At the moment we are going at about 35% PC goals in the men, 50% in the women. I would be surprised if the men get above 50% to be honest.

    Keely i wouldnt throw out those australian stats, you notice most of the australian goals are field goals in both men and women, its not just the one game. At the moment in both the men and women australia is the top scorer... even netherlands in second place has 60% FG in the men and 50% in the women.
     
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    I do see your point, NITW. But let's look at the numbers from Day 2 of women's competition:

    PC 15
    FG 8
    PS 1
    65% are PC goals

    So the running total is:

    PC 27
    FG 27
    PS 1

    That's definitely 50% as you pointed out. My prediction was 60%. Even the AUS ladies scored 4 of their 6 goals today on PCs - a conversion rate I'm sure they're much happier with. We're still waiting for the second day of men's games but I expect to see the stats to move definitively towards 60% as well.

    So that might be a lot of weight, but the numbers don't lie! :)
     
  17. Wassie

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    Maybe as games get tighter field goal opportunities will get more difficult to come by thus favouring more goals from PCs ....or a higher overall percentage.

    Here is something on PS....could a PS that comes from field play be credited toward a field play goal and a PS that comes from a PC be credited toward a PC goal?
     
  18. keely

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    I think you're right, Wassie.

    For official purposes, it appears that PS goals are held statistically separate from FG or PS goals regardless of when they arose - as you can see here.
     
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    Latest Stats brought to you by NE14HOCKEY :yes:

    18 Games (2 Score Draws)
    74 Goals (46 FG, 37 PC, PS 1)
    42 Cards (35 Green, 7 Yellow, 0 Red)

    A few little fun statistics:

    In the Womens Pool A all the matches have been won by the first name side:
    http://www.ne14hockey.com/index.php?page=119&event=151

    And in fact ignoring the draws only the Great Britain Men and the New Zealand Men have won as the second name team which is a little freaky out of the 18 matches played so far.

    Top Goal Scorers Men:

    Abbott D Australia 3
    Shaw H New Zealand 3
    Keller F Germany 2
    Taekema T Netherlands 2

    Top Goal Scorers Women:

    Paumen M Netherlands 4
    Hudson N Australia 2
    Fu B China 2
    Eastham C Australia 2
    Rebecchi C Argentina 2
    F Rinne Germany 2
    Liddelow S Australia 2
    Hoffmann E Germany 2
    Lambert A Australia 2
    Lee S O South Korea 2

    Enjoy ;)
     
  20. deegum

    deegum FHF Legend

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    Yea one of the the last ones I saw them score was 4 years ago_ won Olympic Gold :p


    ( Still think it involved deliberate back of stick- would love to see a high definition slo mo replay.-but that's another story.)
     

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