Rules Changes Just a reminder...

Discussion in 'Outdoor Umpiring Questions & General Chat' started by redumpire, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. Krebsy

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    We should demand it gets spent on free wintergreen for all players over 30.
     
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  2. Diligent

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    Ok, ok...

    Seriously: very few of the club umpires in summer league seem aware of the new signal; a new rule book when it comes out is one of very few perks the HUA can offer to associate (non-appointed) members; candidates for the umpire course do 2017 rules for the online test, but on day must have a 2015 book or none at all; and above all, leafing through a book is quicker, nicer, and more 'official' for those post-match debates.

    Is it really that hard to print 2017 Rule Books?
     
  3. redumpire

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    You need to contact FIH about that...
     
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    This would not be new. Until 2001, Rule Books for England were always printed in England under FIH license. Then 2004 and most subsequent editions appear to have been printed by FIH, except for one year (2011-12 Rules in 2010?) when EH needed England-printed stocks for a September implementation, ahead of FIH's 1st January.
     
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    You need to contact EH about that... ;)
     
  6. Diligent

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    Good idea. I'll suggest to the officers of our HUA that they contact EH: order 2017 Rule Books for distribution to members, in time for the new season.
     
  7. Michael Byrne

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    Considering what everyone else is saying, I'm a bit confused as to why when I took my EH L1 umpiring course in February I was given a copy of the 2017 rulebook?
     
  8. AJF

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    2017 rulebooks don't exist I don't think.... I believe as all the changes were small, it's just digital @redumpire will know more.
     
  9. Michael Byrne

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    I mean, don't they say "From 1 January 2017" on them? Because I was given a hard copy of that one in my umpiring course as mentioned above.
     
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    Was it an actual rulebook or one that was just printed out from the online version? I only ask as previous rulebooks stated how to obtain hard copies in the back, yet the 2017 one does not
     
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    That was the date that FIH introduced them, but national associations were allowed to chose the date on which they were implemented. England Hockey chose 1 Aug so as not to introduce them halfway through the domestic season, given that the changes were so minor.

    Did you get your copy in England?
     
  12. DURHAM STAG

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    There are plenty of copies of the 1 January 2017 rule book in hard copy here in the North East. The umpires' association has bought them.
     
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    It would appear not, @Diligent!
     
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  14. AJF

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    But... There's an app for that
     
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    Yep. And it's very good too.
     
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    It was an actual rulebook, and yes I got it on my EH L1 course in England in February
     
  17. Diligent

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    Navigating the maze that is the England Hockey website (ok, I'm kidding: got there by Google) finds the 'Useful Resources' page, and the Order Form for 2017 Rule Books.

    The order form was created 23 Jan 2017, so it seems rule books were available all along.
     
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    I think we'd established that... ;)
     
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    I may have to start making these again :)
     
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  20. Diligent

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    My concern was not about the changes, it was about having a current hard copy to hand, when an umpire needs it.
    I thought we'd established the establishment line: that umpires don't need printed Rule Books, indicating that we shouldn't want printed Rule Books, and therefore wouldn't get printed Rule Books. From earlier in the thread:

    Disentangling the negatives, isn't that: "It is true: Rule Books are not being printed (by FIH) - you should get the app"?

    That is the message reaching HUA officers, for whom the "no need" idea does indeed translate to "we have not ordered any". It has been suggested they re-consider, and get their order in asap.
     
    #40 Diligent, Jul 21, 2017
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